Broken Olympic Medals, Supermarket Sheep, and Should AI Replace Juries?

00:00Welcome to These Two Shouldn't Have a podcast. Coming up today, sweaty armpits in a supermarket.

00:09Christmas shopping is the worst ever. For me personally, I attract no bed to the shops. Walking with me, Charlie, looking in a fridge somewhere, and without a shadow of a doubt, you get someone's greasy armpits in your face. You know me, it's like, what are you doing, mate? Just wait. I'm just grabbing the sausage the same as you. Do you know me? Hang on, hang on.

00:31So you're out and about trying to grab someone's sausage.

00:37Oh yeah, I like the way you twisted it. So did he, he liked the way you twisted it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you end up with someone's greedy armpit in your in your face all the time. You're playing naked twister or something. That's what it may as well it might as well be. That's why I don't like going shopping.

01:24Oh wow.

01:25You did? Indeed? Good.

01:29Busy week.

01:31When is this going?

01:33Are we to build this? Busy week? Uh yeah, that's been a week. Busy week, yeah. How's how's your we've been? Yeah, quite we're quite busy actually. Come across a little story though. Oh little a bit a bit of a weird one, I thought. I'm just gonna get my phone out here. Yeah. It was about the Olympic medal that was broken.

01:53What?

01:54Yeah. The recent Olympics. Yeah, yeah, 2026, yeah. Medal. Medal? Yeah. Somebody's medal. Gold medal. Yeah. So Olympic gold-winning downhill skier. Obviously, the winter Olympics. Right. Breezy Johnson was jumping around with pure excitement after a medal ceremony in Italy when a gold medal physically snapped and broke a heart. She wasn't alone. Officials had launched into an investigation after several other winter athletes reported their medals falling to pieces. And detaching from the ribbons. Couple of things on that for me. So it was the ribbon that snapped, not the actual medal. Breezy Johnson's medal snapped in half. Right. So there's a couple of issues I've got with it, right? First and foremost, who calls the kid Breezy? Mr. and Mrs. Johnson. Yeah. And second of all, are these the chocolate coined gold medals or what? Well, I don't know. It depends. Pure gold? Yeah, but well, not just they're not all gold. You get some silver and some bronze ones. Yeah, but they didn't br they didn't snap in half by all accounts. So was it so just to be clear then, was it was it the the ribbon-y bit or was it the actual chunky metal bit? According to reports, the actual chunky metal split in half. And this is at the wintrum bad deal when in Italy. Maybe it's just a cold thing. Maybe maybe there's something wrong in the process of creating that. Possibly, but you'd be absolutely gutted, wouldn't you? Pissed off, yeah. I mean did they did they rush out with a replacement? Or or did they just produce like a certain amount of medals and then that's it? But I yeah, yeah, I don't know because the way I look at it though is like it's not the only one that's happened. Some of the ribbons have fallen off as well. So it's just pure bad quality maze, isn't it? I mean, I I all I can think of is you know the gold coins you get at Christmas with the chocolate. The fucking big ones. Yeah, just give them them.

04:08Yeah.

04:09Yeah.

04:10But you know, I just find that a weird story that somebody's celebrating there, and they've got like two halves of a gold medal. It would it would be embarrassing, but not only that, you you know, you know the thing that I I think is like really bad about it, it's like there's a medal maker, right? God, that sounds like yeah, worst witch for medal maker. Yeah, um there's a medal maker, right, whose responsibility, only responsibility is to create these fucking medals. It's like what a failure. Yeah, what what an absolute failure is it's just only job, and you've got it fucking wrong. It's broke. A gold medal has broken far.

04:54Fuck.

04:55That's bad. I mean, obviously, I would imagine like the Olympic guys, whoever they are, are gonna replace that. You would hope so. But would they replace them there and then or or or or do you reckon they set them in the post afterwards?

05:12It's bad, don't we? That is bad. It's not something that you you think's gonna happen. I mean, what are they what have they done if they have they cut back on the materials? Are they not solid? I've had a thought they were solid. Solid gold, solid silver, solid quite you know, clearly it can be soft, but to break it off, yeah.

05:32That's bad.

05:33Maybe they've gone a bit too deep with the engraving, because like that they have something on them, don't they?

05:37And then it's engraved. Winner. They don't have winner of them. What often winner of them? I don't know what they have on.

05:44No, what it lasts in sort of design, yeah, but maybe they've you know engrave it, they they leave something and then engrave around the outside to make it to make it stand out. Maybe it's just I was just shocked when I saw the story to be good. That's bad. That something like that could actually happen, yeah. And then what other the other thing that shocked me was I want to know whether Breezy's actually a Christian name or uh the first name, I should say, or whether it's a nickname, because it doesn't say like is it something like no? It's a good point actually. Stephanie Breezy Johnson or something like that, you know what I mean? Like Dwayne the Rock.

06:22No, no, he can't he can't, yeah.

06:23Well, think of think of Eddie the Eagle, right? Yeah, yeah, he was known as Eddie the Eagle, but I bet it didn't actually say that on his medal, it would have had to say his real name, right? You can't even clean them too with the names on it. I don't know. We need to find out, don't we? We need to find out, yeah. But no, if there's an abortion ceremony, anything official, yeah. It'd have to be official because if you think about it, if they broke a world record, like a European record or a world record during that, they couldn't say, Oh, I need the Eagle, oh I'd gone, Stephen Jones. Um, it's just brought a world record. They'd have to go with the real name. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Risi Johnson not even what they have to be APs, haven't they? Yeah, they've gotta be, haven't they? Wouldn't have shed long bit, it'd be even funny if she's bald and not didn't have way to ask. I don't know what she looks like to be always, but uh vote of well yeah, it'd be interesting to see. Or know whether you're not where where were you looking to find that story? Just on the just on the internet and it's just it's just stuff you come across, isn't it? Breezy Johnson, I mean that's how it's little born mate. No, it's it does it's already does it's like pick your pet's name and then the town that you were born in. Yeah, what's the one? Breezy Johnson.

07:46Yeah.

07:47Does to me, yeah. You think about it? In an house, Breezy, quick and breezy.

07:54Why did that come?

07:56I don't know. It's because you mentioned poor name, innit? So you know you get in a house on it anyway. So, yeah, that so I found that quite uh quite disturbing to be honest. To be honest with you, yeah. I'd be absolutely gutted. You would be. I mean, because it's like crying hard to win a wendel, especially with gold, and then if it breaks, you'd be thinking, well, that's shit, isn't it? Yeah, but newsworthy, all publicity is good publicity. Is it what do you think the story is about? The supermarket sheep are stampede. What do I think it's about? Yeah, and bear in mind this is a 2026 story, so it's relatively new. Supermarket sheep. Well, it it's gonna be like a whole field's worth of sheep breaking into breaking into, but somehow getting masked on the swag bags, you're in a cat burglars, you've got a sheepless. Somehow getting in and then just knocking over all the shells. But it's only goats that do that sort of shit, right? Sheep follow each other. So, yeah, actually, one sheep fucking breaks in, that's it, the whole fucking herd of sheep. Is it herd? Is that the correct floor? Floor floor? Means that anyway. I'll tell you, I'll tell you briefly about the story. A shepherd in Germany was completely baffled when 50 members of his flock suddenly broke away from the main herd. Distracted by a trail of acorns, the sheep marched directly into the local penny supermarket. I don't know what that is for. Yeah, probably forcing terrified shoppers and employees to climb on top of the checkout convey belts. I gotta stop that.

09:40That's that's not gonna work.

09:42You're the rattle, right? You climb on, you climb on, and then you you move to the edge. You climb off again, climb back on again.

09:50I mean,

09:54yes, yes, gets scammed. You get scammed with your barcode on the screen. Yeah, so um QR code, absolutely, mate. What did I say more tacky than that? What did I say? Barcode. Same difference, innit? Yeah, the interloopers left a trail of broken bottles and droppings before they were finally rounded up by the farmer or the the shepherd. What was the shepherd's name? Do we know? I didn't go into it too much. I just seen the headline and I thought, what would you do if you went in a supermarket and seen it full of sheep? I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd come back out, yeah. I've sort of like because they can be quite nippy, can't they? I don't know. So yeah, I'd come back out. Yeah, interesting though, isn't it? I mean, I think the funniest thing I've seen in supermarket is is people. Especially at Christmas.

10:50Like, yeah. No, no, just the way people act. I think rushing to get shit. It's like it's the end of the world. The shop's shut for a day. And it's like, oh, I've gotta fill my trolley up, gotta get this, and they don't give a shit. Who they're walking through, who they're treading through, as long as they're getting their turkey or the whatever, you know what I mean? Christmas shopping is the worst ever. Me personally, I attract no bed to shops. I can be walking with my trolley looking in a fridge somewhere, and without a shadow of a doubt, you get someone's greasy armpits in your face. You know me. It's like, what are you doing, mate? Just wait. I'm just grabbing the sausage the same as you, you know me. Hang on, hang on.

11:35So you're out and about trying to grab someone's sausage.

11:41Oh, yeah. I like the way you twisted it. So did he, he liked the way you twisted it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you end up with some greasy armpit in your in your face all the time. You're playing naked twister or something. That's what it means. It might as well be. That's why I don't like going shopping. Do you know what I mean? It's like, but Christmas is even worse. Christmas shopping is shocking. I tend to stay away. Do an online shop. Yep, but do you online shop? Supermarket stores, some of the time, but I get pissed off with the it allows you to order it and then it says, Oh, sorry, this is out of stock. Exactly, and then it's like, oh, we've replaced it with this. It's like exactly if I've ordered I've ordered apples, yeah. And they've sent me a lettuce. Yeah, yeah, there's some button. It's just not even the same, is it? No, there's some there's some dodgy replacements.

12:36So you don't online shop at all.

12:38I've ordered a bottle of wine, so they've sent me grapes. Oh, it's not growing. It's just earlier in the process. Exactly. You don't do online shop. And they sent you vinegar. The only online shop I'm gonna do is Amazon, but not for food or anything. Oh, we do our online shop, but I must admit, the online shop experience has got even fucking worse recently. Right. It used to be, you know, from the major shopping places that you can get online shopping from. Yeah. It was free delivery. Okay. But now it's and you used to have to pay if you wanted to slot the same day. Whereas now it's always paid. It's always paid. It's like three or four quid to have it delivered, whether you book it for today, tomorrow, the day after. Well, not only that, right? Have you seen the crates that they come in? Yeah. What do you mean? They don't put shopping in bags anymore. Such a big brilliant case. Well, they they bring they they they unload these plastic crates, stack them up like our house, they just stack them up outside the fucking house. And then I have to go out there with bags and back it up so I can fucking carry it in. So they don't leave us with the crates, it's just they expect you to unload the crates into fucking bags. So I I actually stand there now, I get them to put it next to the car in the fucking drive, open the boot. You put it all in the booth, it's like fuck off. I'll put it shopping now. Because it's not always convenient to go shopping. Well, you know, don't don't Yeah, okay. I just don't get it though. I mean you're going in the supermarket now. Right? Yeah. You walk around with your trolley, you have to scan your own food, you know, then you go to the till, there's no one's no one there. You know. Narry used to work there, she's she's been sacked because she like fucking sheep, innit? Everything's just scan it yourself, do it yourself. Well, sorry. Yeah. I don't want to do that. I'm going to shop, I want someone to serve me. If I'm putting the stuff in the basket, I'll take it out, I'll put it on the conveyor belt. If they're not stood on it, like like because there's sheep about, if they're not stood on the conveyor belts, I want my food to go down there and I want them to scan it for me. But you can still do that, they can't less kills. That's the problem though, isn't it? So then at Christmas, it's even worse because they've got no staff going up the aisles, yeah. No, and they've not worked that out either, have they? Because they queue up the aisles, so there's a there's a gap between like the tills and the aisles, but then people are just creating lines. Yeah, so you you you can't actually get between fucking aisles anymore. But but don't you think that this is a way that this country's gone anyway? I I was shocked right last time that I went to the local tip, right? We know that it's got bad anyway, where you have to separate your wood from your rubble from your from what you know, you basically have to separate shit into different things, and you can't have bag rubbish. But anyway, I I thought I'd found a little bit of a cheek for it. Oh right, because plastic bags non-recyclable, right? So you get away with a sewing, you just put it in a fucking black plastic bag, and they say, you know, when you drive up the stay, what have you got all the non-recyclable in bags? Loads of cardboard and flat packed and loads of this. Well, I've got non-recyclable in the bags. Alright, let's have a look. They actually fucking inspected me fucking rubbish last time I went, literally last week, right? So he pulled this fucking bag open, and to be fair, it had got like loads of plastic bottles and cans and chin because the twats, the bin men also now are working to fucking roll, right? We put our bin out on Maroon bin, which is our cans and bottles bin, and it never got picked up last Monday. So I went on the website to report it because you can report it to your local authority, right? Went on the website, it had a notice saying, Oh, we're really sorry, we had to cancel it last minute. But if you put some we'll allow you to put some extra bags of rubbish out next time your bin goes out. Yeah, they allowed us to put it out, but they didn't fucking pick it up and take it, did it, the twat? So then I took that the tip, got pretty much fucking searched like security at a fucking airport, and it starts bulleting me and said, Oh well then you know you're gonna have to tip all of these down in that tip now, and you're gonna have to fill this bin up and you're gonna have to do that. But I guess the point you're making is what the absolute fuck? Why can't I just throw rubbish in the fucking bin? You've got people who and this sounds like really funny elitist, and I'm not looking down on anybody, but if it's their job to deal with recycling, well, my rubbish won't deal with me fucking recycler. Yeah, don't you think? I do, I do, because when um I was first driving and I went to the tip, you'd just flog it over the wall. Oh fuck, yeah, and away you'd go.

17:10Yeah.

17:11No problem. Then the big pooper scooper to come across, scoop it all up, throw it in a machine, and then you have people inside on conveyor belts. Yeah, sorting through it. Sorting through it. Yeah, it used to be when it's but now we do it ourselves. They haven't got a job now. No, they they just seem you know what I mean. It needs to be careful because it's like they probably have got bits in the job description that we don't know about. But ultimately, if you drop stuff, they say there's the brushes. You know, if you put it in the wrong thing, it's like get it out again and do that. I mean, I I don't know what they do, but yeah, going back to and I know your exact point, and they're about throwing it, um, just throwing it in, all mixed up and everything. Because when when I was really little, we grew up in like a little country village in in Cheshire. Yeah, but there we go again. We haven't said anything. Raven said anything. Um but yeah, our local tip there was just a mound of horrible, stinky rubbish. Yeah, I mean, people would take bin bags, all their bins, you know, the the the the like the tube cylindrical type mecca bins, you'd put that in a trailer or a car, take it to the local tip, and and just fucking tip it and then walk away. So there's just this like mound, this mountain of just rubbish, not sorted or anything. Yeah, nobody fucking died from that, right? So then the reality is now. No, we can't do that. We had more people flighted and because that's what they want to do, they just want to pull up to a wall and throw it over, they'll throw it in bushes and stuff like that because to get charged for it. That's true. You know what I mean? A van at log protect like you never bothered there, you just throw it over the wall, they were happy for the recycling and away you went, but hey yo, that's another, you know, fucking changing it. But I mean that's still quite far away from the fact that you know you pretty much want a slave when you when you go into the supermarket. No, it's not that I want I I want a slave. I'm quite happy to walk around the shops. What a dog.

19:12Oh, so you don't want to push around.

19:13Yeah, what what a dog yeah what I don't want is greasy armpits in my face, male or female. It doesn't really matter. I remember once though there was uh this guy who was on his bike with a load of meat in his hand. In the supermarket. No, no, uh in the street. Alright. But he had a load of meat in his hand and he dropped a couple of his meat on the dropped meat. Off his bike, yeah. So uh the wife being a good Samantitan comes over and says, Yeah, I've got a carrier bag for you. Gives him a carrier bag, and he was like, not cheers, thanks. I'll see where this is going. And off he went.

19:54Do you realise he's probably robbed her? Yeah. She was like, No, he wouldn't have robbed that. Of course he has. Yeah. The fact that he said, Thanks for the bag, oh, do you want to buy any meat? Oh no. Afterwards, oh, I didn't hear that. I didn't hear him say that. She's just been a good Samaritan. She's Aiden and a betting. Don't like betting. Um justice type stuff. Oh yeah. Me and the wife over the last sort of few nights, because there's like there's there's three seasons. Where's this called? It's fine, it's safe. Oh, okay. It's a PG episode. Oh, right, okay. Actually, fuck. Um so we've been watching this. It's called like the jury or something like that. Right. Um, it's a it's a factual-based thing. Um, there's there's like three little mini seasons, each with like three, four episodes in. And what it's trying to do is I've explained this. It's all wrong.

20:50Right.

20:50Should have just started off saying it's basically following a court case. Okay. Right? It's following the jury because and it's factual, right? Because no one's allowed to record the jury in in Crown Court cases, right, in the UK. Um, you can't do that. Um, but there's a suspicion that just a system's fact jury is not an effective way at all of deciding whether somebody is is guilty or not. So that they've gone to try and prove this by by this TV series where basically they they they get quite a serious case. It's it's murder, it's a murder case, right? Okay. Um, and they get all actors, not jury, the jury aren't actors, but all of like the the barristers and the judge and the uh the defendants and and the solicitors and everything, they're all actors, but they are using the exact wording as their script that was in the real case. So in effect, they're re they're what's it called? Reenacting. Reenacting?

21:49Is that is that the right thing?

21:50Uh they're reenacting the case exactly as it was laid out. Crown watch used to do, yeah. Yes. Yeah, like a reconstruction. Um but it's it's fun to watch. Um But the key thing is, the the jury, they've gone through the same process of like you normally where you put your jury. But the great thing is, because it's not a real case, it's because it's a case that's already been tried. Yeah. Um they've then got cameras going in with the jury and this, that, and the other. Anyway, fuck it. That was a long description that wasn't it. Um, the key thing is, fuck me. There's literally, I didn't know realise how many breaks there were in court cases either, because I've never been on a jury.

22:31I'd love to be on a jury, but I've never been in a jury, right?

22:33And they'll give a bit of evidence, and then the jury will they'll have a break, and the jury will retire to the room, and then they'll bring it back out, be more evidence. Obviously, this goes on multiple times. Every single time the jury's going back into fucking guilty, they are you know he's done this, he's done that. And I'm I'm actually angry watching this. I've getting really angry because it's like they've heard a tiny bit of evidence, yeah, and they've made the fucking decision already, and then every you know, you see this developing and you see the backwards and forwards of people changing their mind, and then literally they're they're falling out and they're arguing, and ultimately, pretty much every single one of those three whole seasons of this resulted in just so they didn't get home jury, everybody trying to convince the minority to be the tent of two so that they could just get out and stuff like that. But what this proved, right? Because what what they also then did fucking this is terrible, innit? Are you following this? Because I'm even I'm even losing track of this, and I'm probably explaining this. Um the key what they then did is they kept it a secret what the actual verdict was, right, until the very end, until they delivered their verdict, and then they said, Alright, yeah, great, brilliant, blah blah blah blah. By the way, in the real case, he was found guilty of murder, not manslaughter, and then they're all every single one of these things came back with a completely different verdict than the real verdict, or when I say real verdict, the verdict that had been in in arrived upon, and they even had in one of these episodes, sorry, one of these little mini-series, they had two sets of jury, and neither neither knew that they they something like existed. And again, real life versus jury one versus jury two, all different outcomes, and it's like it really is down to the fucking look of the draw. Because people can't make unbiased decisions, like if it's an abuse case of somebody has been involved in abuse, then they're probably going to be sensitive to it. I think I I think, right, and here's where I'm getting to I think, right, should we jury, right? And it should be AI-based. All the evidence is fed in, all of the laws are fed in, all of the criteria for does it meet or does it not meet that particular thing, the evidence, fed into AI, and then AI goes blah blah blah blah, guilty as fuck's ending down. Because there's no emotion, there's no past experience, there's no bias. It is literally factual. Was there enough evidence show? Did it suggest for that reasonable doubt? So why aren't you fucking doing that? Um I've got a couple of things to say about that. Only a couple. Yeah. Fuck me. I think I've ranted on for about half an hour there. But go go and watch it for me, because it's really good. Firstly, 100% they shouldn't use AI. What? How can you say they should use humans with bias?

25:33No.

25:35Use dogs. Go on. What they should have is a panel that's not um members of the public. These people should be like investigators. Okay. That sort of thing. Still be biased there, though. But you're gonna get biased in anything, even in AI. I see. No, no, no, you're not. Well, you are. No, right. We'll come back to that in a minute. You are because somebody's inputting it into AI. Okay, bear me two steps. I I'm with you. In other words, what you're saying is you should have trained people where it's their job to be a juror. Correct. In the same way you've got like a crime prosecution, so the CPS, the police will submit the evidence and then they will determine if there's enough to charge or to take it to trial. Yes. I agree with that bit, however, a person could be having a bad day. Yeah. They could be hung over, right? They could have just had an argument with the wife, husband, cousin, or could have just bit them. Yeah. They could have just come across sheep in a supermarket. Yeah. There's going to be judgment that's impaired by what's going on with them. AI doesn't have that. But it does. But but it doesn't. But it does. You can't just say, but it does prove to me that it does that. Someone has to input it into AI. Input it, yeah. How's AI making that decision if it doesn't know the facts? Where's it getting the facts from? Well, if there's you know, like these law books that you see on solicitors' shelves and shit, you could just get that digitized and say, right, there's the law. Yeah, so how are they getting it? So they're so so we're are we getting rid of courts then?

27:32Just basically everybody's getting charged through AI. Actually, when you're thinking about someone has to put it input it to get a decision off AI. Whether that's right, you you've got a level higher. I right, okay. I see what you're saying now. So you've got the building the case, presenting the evidence, making the decision. I was just talking about the making the decision. Yeah, but actually, you're right, the the two steps further further back as well. Yeah, we can't just jump in other things.

28:10You can't just jump in. Just the fact that decisions, I don't think decisions that are that serious should be made by anything that has any bias or emotion, and AI doesn't have to be a problem. And that's why they should have trained people who it's their job. But they still have bias and emotion. But but that's what I'm saying. No, AI can still have that.

28:33No, it can't.

28:33But it can. Because you've got to input it into the AI system. No, you just give it a database of information. Right, so where's the database coming from? Well then what do you mean? Where's it coming from? Where where's the where's the evidence coming from? Right, are we talking evidence? No, yeah, that's gotta be that's gonna be fed into this. Yeah, but you're still gonna prove that someone's done it. Right. So the evidence, yeah, is still coming from from people. So what you're saying is just remove humans from completely. No. What I'm saying is they should be trained jurors. That's what I'm saying.

29:13But no, I don't care.

29:14Like the police are trained, aren't they? In order to grab the evidence, get the evidence, arrest the people, send them to court. Um, but it does go to show that there is bias in in decisions. But this is the point you guys are making. There is bias in the police's minds to at times make completely their own decision to arrest. But but there's there's bias in every decision everybody makes. Which is why, for major decisions to do with whether you're taking some of the liberty away, you should take bias out completely, and therefore use AI. Right, okay, so let's let's put it out there then. I'd rather you didn't, but we can just talk about every then retrial absolutely everybody because AI is new.

30:01It's an interesting question, that. And I don't and again, this this So the likes of Peter Sutliff and people like that, do they get a retrial and AI comes back and says, Oh no, it's innocent.

30:12It's not going to, though.

30:13How do you know? There might be a hundred percent guarantee that there might be some people that it comes back as innocent, but if it's not a good thing. It depends what they've input in the data, and the evidence shows. But yeah, but then again, that's still the problem. Oh, I'm

30:29the people collecting the evidence. The whole world should just be run by AI and fucking robots. Well, it will be eventually as soon as there's little chips that I can fucking plug in and just disconnect from the whole fucking world and just be with me. Techie friends, that's I'll I'll fucking do that. See, that's that's what it boils down to, isn't it? Yeah. Because you're a tech dude, you want everything set. No, it's just in in in technology or even in like circuitry, you know electric, it's like it's a switch, it's either it is or it's not. There's no there's no fluctuation, there's no grey area, it's like see this is why I like maths at school, because maths was piss simple, right? It was like you either got it right or you got it wrong. Yeah, right. You could reverse engineer it and work out where you've gone wrong, you could show your work, and you can you know what I mean? Yeah, get me to fucking talk about a poem, that's that is all judgment. I mean, yeah. I I believe the author meant this and he made me feel like that's the thing, so people's interpretations on things and certain things you want to get rid of. For serious shit, yeah. Like when you're gonna chuck someone in a cell for like life, you should remove bias. I'll tell you what sort of like made me think, fuck yeah, that's a good idea. Um there's a recent film out with you know Chris Chris Pratt. I've heard of him, yeah. What's he been in? Um you know the newer Jurassic Parks? Yes the main guy in that. Um what else has he been in? He's uh Guardians of the Galaxy, he was Glass Pew. Yeah, he's mid-Marty. I know you mean that. Right, so he was um I can't remember what the film was called, but it was like a one-word, two-syllable word. It's like guilty or justice or something like that. But that was exactly the same. He he was he he was sat in this chair, right? And there's there's like an AI model, yeah. And and it's basically getting him to prove his innocence. Yeah, it's basically saying the probability at the moment of you being put to death in the next 90 minutes, yeah, yeah, is currently 100%. You've got all of this resource available to you, the internet. You can go look at video footage, you can ask it to show camera footage of this, that, the other. Prove to this AI model, you know. I think you had to get it below 80% or below 70% with proof that you gave it there and that, and then it wouldn't execute you. Right. I thought that was brilliant, yeah, yeah. Well, then you've got you've got people like we're talking programmes, yeah? We're talking TV programmes and stuff. Have you seen Prison Break? Yeah, every single one of them, even when they broke brought Southfield, yeah, which is just studio. Yeah. So Lincoln Lincoln not Linford. Yeah, not Linford. Lincoln, yeah, Burroughs, he was innocent, and he nearly got the he nearly got the lucky chip. How was it? And he couldn't prove it. So I would have killed him. Yeah, and he's innocent. But so you he was innocent, free Lincoln Burroughs. That's what I think. But there's loads of but he got free, didn't he? Well he hadn't no, he had to escape. And the it was still, it was like four seasons before he was free, a free man. Four seasons of 21 episodes per season. That's a lot of a lot of time. It was, you know what I mean? And if his brother hadn't gone in there and made him escape, he would have been fried, mate. Fried. Yeah, but that look, AI wouldn't have shaved in because there's no evidence for him. AI's not gonna get it right 100% of the time. Oh, every confidence that it's gonna be getting right more of the time. So what why why swap people for AI though? If AI's not gonna be 100% right.

34:12Yeah, okay, fair enough.

34:14Are we allowed to drink on camera? Is that alright? Why not? Hey, tell you what, I wasn't really surprised about um being able to take drinks instead of third and sit there. Yeah, it's good on you. Yeah, I didn't pick that. Yeah, you can do that. Yeah, you can even order them for the half time as well.